Tuesday, 30 December 2025

Did you know of - or do you, like me, suffer from - THIS?

 

I can not abide being in close proximity to someone eating who doesn't have the slightest awareness or care of the sounds emanating from that act. There! I've said it - something I've never in my life put in words to anybody else! Yet it's been an unspoken blight I've carried around ever since I became aware of it around 12-13 years old (possibly something linked to puberty?).


It's not just noisy eating - I think most people find that unpleasant - but making a needless aural assault on other people's sense for what is basically an admittedly natural, though to me, a private/personal activity.


I don't recall having encountered the word 'misophonia' until I read it a few days ago, Xmas Eve, on the BBC News site about a woman who has suffered from this 'disorder' (as it's medically described) for a lifetime, and I thought "That's ME!" And looking it up, although the word covers negative reaction to a wide range of sounds, foremost among them is other people's eating. And all these decades I'd thought that I was if not unique (which would have been silly) but certainly quite rare. Now I find that it's rather more common than I'd assumed to be the case.

My own aversion depends not only on the particular sound being produced but whether or not I know that person, that combination setting up a particular reaction in myself which I find severely hard to tolerate, and I just have to move away outside earshot or I feel I'll go mad!

My most extreme reaction all my life has been to one of my brothers' eating, one who is 18 months younger than me, so he's now 78. We were very close as boys then suddenly, as though overnight, I couldn't help but hear that when he ate anything at all, he thudded his teeth together, top against bottom, whether he had something in his mouth or even after he'd swallowed it - and that sound in particular, that thud-thud-thud, just drove me crackers!. And now he still does it - at least he did when I last saw him 18 years ago at the funeral wake of another of my brothers. But that same in that direction irritation soon extended to every other member of my family, even though they made different sounds, it still sent shivers through me even if nothing like as deeply felt as that of my younger sibling. I've only ever met one other person who eats in that same way, someone I used to see quite regularly, being the boyfriend of one of my own best friends - the latter not seemingly troubled by sharing my difficulty. I could never myself have had a close friend who ate that way, let alone live with one - but, then, I've never been asked! 


Apparently there is (as yet?) no known cure for this malady, though there is what's known as 'cognitive behavioural therapy' to deal with it by reducing the level of negative reaction to this particular stimulus. At my age it's a bit late in the day for me to explore whether something on those lines could make it for me easier to live with, though I don't rule it out entirely.  

Generally, the noisiest of common foods must be apples and crisps ('chips' in U.S.A.) and should the occasion arise, or I was offered such, I would never eat them in company, being ultra-aware of the sounds I myself was making. I'm even still conscious of it having lived alone for 55 years. I do still consume a (small) packet of crisps daily, but I do try to keep the volume down - after all, my pussy-cats may not like it. Don't want them to be giving me disapproving looks! 😊 



I'll end by relating a dreadful experience I had some years back, my coming closer to being an actual murderer than I've ever been before or since......

It was in the 90s, a couple of years after the Channel Tunnel had opened, affording a rail link between London and Paris. I was returning to London - a packed train but I'd got a reserved (window) seat, so no problem there. I'd noticed that the adjacent aisle seat had also been reserved, but settling down with a paperback I didn't give it any more thought. Then she arrived. A what-you-might-call, a 'portly' youngish female, perhaps around 20, carrying a supermarket-type plasic bag full of....well, what I was about to find out. She plonked herself down, spreading herself over both armrests (but she was 'large'!) and straight away reached down and took out a large bag of crisps - the bag being about the same size of those which contain half-a-dozen small individual bags. The train had not started yet so there were no sounds other than people talking, and no buzz or hum from the train's movement itself. I made an inner 'groan' as she began chomping away - crunch, crunch, crunch - completely distracting me from my reading. I was reluctant to escape to somewhere else even if only temporarily, as she being on the 'large' side it would have meant a major upheaval only to be repeated on my return - no other visibly vacant seats to be seen which might be unaccounted for after late-comers had arrived. So anyway, I grinned (though not really) and bore it! By the time she'd finished the train was on the move. She then reached into her bag again and brought out one those giant plastic bottles of Pepsi. "Glug, glug, glug" she went - well, she did have an awful lot to wash down into her gullet.  When that episode I thought must have been over, resuming my reading she was fumbling in her bag again and brought out - (don't laugh) - another giant bag of crisps! OMG! Clearly this creature was one of those who just could not keep still - she simply had to be doing something, and just my luck that her 'thing' happened to be to eat, eat, eat! My indignation was becoming harder and harder to contain, but I couldn't do anything other than continue to suffer in silence, albeit near to bursting. Chomp, crackle, chomp, crackle......it went on and on. I tried to console myself by thinking "Well, at least she's not speaking into a phone!" Coming out of the tunnel, entering England, she'd now finished her second (giant) packet - and what do you think she did? Yes, you guessed right. She got out her PHONE! - and for the next 30 mins at the very least, non-stop jabber, jabber, jabber, yak, yak, yak - making it impossible for me to read. You can't not listen when there's someone a few inches away from your left lug-hole talking as if the whole coach needed to hear - and what's worse, everything she said was so non-urgent - inconsequential - nothing that couldn't have waited. As it so often is on these chats you can't help but over-hearing it when on public transport. By now I was seething, blood pressure doubtlessly stratospheric, feeling like boiling inside I could have exploded out through my ears. As we pulled in to Waterloo station (as was then London's final terminal point - now it's St Pancras station) I was trying to admire myself for restraining from committing a proper murder - a deserved killing by any means possible, only by the most convenient and quickest way possible, anything to bring an end to that prolonged verbal assault on my ears. One thing I do have to be grateful for, though - is that she didn't have an apple! That would really have sent me over the cliff edge, to face a prison life sentence - but it would have been well worth it!


 



And lastly for now - wishing all the very best for 2026 to all you lovely people!





 

22 comments:

  1. Oh dear god. I’m completely with you. I lose my appetite near anyone like you’ve described. I’ve asked to be moved in restaurants when it got too much... especially when I have to look in the direction of someone making those noises... and chewing with their mouth open! And that woman on the train would not have survived sitting next to me. If she survived the chewing and glugging, the phone conversation would have put me right over the edge.

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    1. Mitch, I'm astonished that, including you, there are already as many as three responses from thosr who share this 'disability' - and I'm sure there's going to be more. Makes me wonder if those others also became aware of it at around the puberty stage - which itself makes me ask whether there's a correlation with our being gay - not exclusively of course, but whether the incidence of this condition is higher for us than for heteros. I leave the question hanging.
      I'm precisely with you regarding restaurants. If I go in one where there's NOT background taped music playing (on a loop) at a reasonably softish level, I want to immediately back to back out, most especially if I'm in company, which can take some explaining to do when one, like me, is too 'ashamed' to be honest about the reason. If there is something to cushion the eating sounds of whoever my company is, if it's only a slight distraction, I certainly feel more at ease - as those eating apart at other tables will not be loud enough to trouble me unduly. And also - yes, seeing someone eating with their mouths open is certainly a visual irritation for me also.

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  2. Oh, wishing you a healthy, happy 2026!

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    1. I absolutely reciprocate that, Mitch - not just for you but to S.G. AND (who could forget?) D & M!

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  3. Dear Ray, I suffer from hyperacusis. I can tell you that many people are totally indifferent to such suffering and the only way I find relief is to avoid situations where my heart begins to pound and I enter into an anxiety spiral. I do carry a pair of noise cancelling ear plugs with me at all times and use them when I find myself inadvertently in such situations. Don’t let age prevent you from seeking cognitive behavioural therapy if it is accessible to you. It would be worth it to get any measure of relief. Helen

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    1. Hi, Helen,
      Having looked up 'hyperacusis' you have my deepest sympathies. Must be absolutely HORRIBLE! At least mine occurs only in particular circumstances which can, with some ingenuity, be avoided, but your condition seems to be prevelant at MOST times, a large part of which can't be controlled. Ear plugs sound like they could be very useful, but who wants to have them in as much as you have to? I assume that your condition covers our misophonia, thoughg if it does that's hardly any consolation.
      Thanks for your visit here.

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  4. Brilliant post, I wish I could show it to both of my daughters (in their 50s) as they like you suffer from this "condition"! Oh my their poor husbands! I'm have to say though although I don't suffer from this condition, I would gladly have murdered the girl on the train for you 😄

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    1. I came damn close to 'murder in the first degree', Rose, and at the time I'd have felt that I'd done a mercy for the world. But BOTH your daughters? I wonder if there's some hereditary element to having this, something which has clearly bypassed lucky you. If you want to and it helps, do show this post to your daughters, if only to show that it's not so rare. If only it could help them!

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  5. I'm right there with you Raybeard!!!! It drives me insane when I hear people eat, swallow, and make noise eating anything. Or smacking their lips. It's just about enough to make me lose my appetite truth be told.

    I'm ready for the holiday season to end, as with my oral surgery am still very limited on what I can eat, as they still don't want me chewing yet on the implants. What I was thinking having my whole mouth done was beyond me. But at least I will never have to worry about any dental issues ever again. But this limited diet is going to do me in dear.

    I will now wish you a peaceful, happy and warm New Year my friend...and with hopes for a healthy one too for you and the pusses.
    Love to you and good wishes.

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    1. You too, M.M.? Well, well! Makes me think that world-wide there could well be millions on millions like us who suffer in silence - maybe like me who have all my life just suffered in silence, too embarrased to own up to having this 'condition'.
      I must have missed the story of your oral surgery. Sounds most unpleasant to have to go through, though I can't think that you'll be having regrets once it has settled. Never having to go to a dentist again makes it sound grand, which I hope it indeed will be.

      All the best to you (and yours) also for 2026 - and with more than anything else, good health throughout.
      XXXX

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  6. Ray!
    I too have this malady! I thought it was just me. OMG! Growing up I had to suffer at the dinner table with my family listening to my two younger brothers, especially the youngest one who ate like a pig at the dinner table. Used to drive me crazy! Many years later when I had a lunch with him at the Olive Garden restaurant, there he was again shoveling the food in his mouth with both hands and eating making pig like sounds. Pat, as much as I love him, munches away on pistachio nuts. Drives me nuts but I don't say anything. What really drives me crazy is people eating in the movie theater. First of all, the crinkling of the plastic bags and wrappers are bad enough but the "chomp! chomp!" is even worse. One movie theater Pat and I went to in California a person can get a whole meal and watch the movie which happen once when Pat and I saw a movie at this upscale movie theater in West Hollywood. A fat black woman was loaded down with spaghetti, bread, wine glass and settled down to watch the movie. I had to move away. I wouldn't be able to enjoy the movie with her pig slopping through all that food. So what is the name of this condition then? Misophonia?
    Now for another very annoying condition some people have. They can't stop talking. After encountering that several time in my lifetime time I knew there had to be an answer for that and there was. Logorrhea which is literally diarrhea of the mouth!
    Ron

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    1. OMG, Ron! You're another one of us! It's good to have you for 'company'.
      The examples you relate to us would equally have driven me up the wall. And as for Pat (I assume he knows your 'condition'?) speaking for myself, I couldn't be in the same room with a person of his habit. My only observation is that it shows just what a strong emotional bond both of you possess - and that you should even contemplate marrying him. I admire you for that alone - but that's just me.

      Logorrhea is another new one on me, but I'm with you on that too. When I was working I'd regularly have to attend committee meetings - and every time there was always at least one who had to hog the time available - yap, yap, yap - and so much of it was REPEATING what had already been said. Not daring to appear rude I always sat there in stony silence, feeling like I was going crackers, my blood pressure touching the ceiling - and beyond. Oh God! - are we not a load of old neurotics!! :-)

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    2. I used to have one of those logorrhea guys working for me. He was a nice guy and did a productive good job but man oh man, he could not just shut up. Yap! Yap! Yap! You couldn't get a word in edgewise. Another time was a friend who used to join our weekly Saturday morning breakfasts at a local dumpy restaurant called "Whiskers" (after the woman's many cats). Finally one of the guys in our group told him (the logorrhea guy) "For Christ's sake Bart, SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

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    3. If such a person is in a one-to-one conversation I can accept that s/he is 'frightened' of silences. But in a group it's far less excusable - and if that person does NOT make a verbal contribution then that itself becomes conspicuous. Being politely aware of proper balance is the key.

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  7. I wouldn't say I had this condition to any extent but hearing someone eating noisily is definitely unpleasant so I sympathise. Wishing you and your readers a Happy and Healthy New Year xx

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  8. I think everyone other than the noisy eaters themselves doesn't like to hear such sounds, Carol - but actually for the likes of me it goes further than that. It's not just the conspicuously aurally noisy that disturbs but rather, actually, being helplessly aware of ANY eating sounds a person is making when we all well know that being totally silent in the consumption process is well nigh impossible. It's the constant awareness of it that is so maddening. (Sigh!).......:-)

    And I wish you in return the loveliest of years for 2026 with, above all else, sound good health right through the year and further.

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  9. That slurping and sucking and chomping ands chewing, along with the mouth open visuals and smacking of the lips and licking of the fingers, along with the moaning and groaning??
    For sex, yes, but not now and not ever at the table!!
    Happy New Year, sir!

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    1. Ha ha! Yes, it's strange how those similar noises in very different circs are not even not 'disturbing' but somehow makes those occasions more complete. :-O.
      And a VERY happy one to you too, B - with good health every day from Jan 1st to........well, that year end.

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  10. Hello Raybeard. I recently discovered your blog. I am definitely a member of the misophonia club. It drives me crazy to hear noisy eaters. The most annoying sounds to me are the crunching of chips, celery and nuts.The constant crackling sound of the chips bag is another added annoyance.Even one of my cats gives my husband the side eye when he opens a bag. My sensitivity seems to have worsened in the last couple of years. I wonder if age/hormones has caused a shift. The woman on the train experience sounds like a nightmare, you exercised great restraint. I would have physically thrown her off the train along with her chips, soda and phone if she had been sitting next to me! :) Wishing you a happy 2026!
    Angela

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    1. Hi Angela. Welcome to my blog - infrequent posts it's true, but when I do make them they come from profoundly deep emotions which, I hope, shows.

      Your manner of writing demonstrates to me the hold this subject has on you too.
      Your mention of crisps (or 'chips', as you call them) I am totallly with you, though the crinkling of the packet I see not as irritating in itself but more of a prelude, or 'warning', to the oral crunching about to commence - and it is that that I just cannot stand. You commend me for my restraint towards the young lady on the train - but, to be honest, I was absolutely BURSTING to tell her to "SHUT THE F UP, Damn you!!!!" and felt right on the verge of getting a heart attack!

      I can't recall ever hearing the sound of celery being munched by someone else, but must have done so sometime, though it would be a very rare sound in this country at least. Similar regarding the sound of nuts being eaten as that too doesn't happen so often that I'd mention it. The 'hardest' food I can't stand the sound of is when an apple is being bitten into.

      I see that the word misophonia' also includes non-eating sounds created by other individuals (which would take one back to the crinkling of crisp packets) including nail-biting - which drives me up the wall - but things like cracking knuckles (almost as bad for me) but even the sounds of typing or tapping a ballpoint pen against a desk or table - the latter two not disturbing me at all. But other than eating, also heavy breathing, unnecessary gasping, clearing one's throat all also I find terribly annoying. Snoring too, though as I've never had a long-term relationship, it's never become a big issue. However, if I ever did want to get involved in a long-term I can see how living with a snorer would quickly become impossible.

      So, it's very good to hear from you, Angela, and if you would care to comment some other of my future posts you'd be most welcome - and I can guarantee you've get a response from me.

      I reciprocate New Year wishes to you and to all those emotionally close to you. Do 'try' to have a worthwhile year ahead and I wish you, most importantly above all else, good health from today up to the year-end AND far beyond.
      'Bye for now.
      Ray.

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  11. Oh yes, I have a handful of patients with this condition. It's very upsetting for thems who have it. One of the reasons I didn't go into pulmonology is I have a slight misophonia towards someone clearing their throat.

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    1. That is MOST interesting. When I decided to write this post, it was a really big step in 'confessing' that I had the condition at all, it being the very first time I'd mentioned it in my entire life. I didn't seriously think there'd be anyone at all - or maybe one at the most - to acknowledge that they also owned it. Now it's so clear that it's MUCH more common than I'd contemplated.
      Btw: I also would claim the sound of throat-clearing as an annoyance though in my case it's conspicuous eating sounds that's the biggest biggie of them all.

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