tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post6351031470916712030..comments2024-03-17T23:08:28.960-07:00Comments on Raybeard: Was the film 'Bambi' to blame?Raybeardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12424095016313843883noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-6449007887450573602012-01-10T08:39:21.359-08:002012-01-10T08:39:21.359-08:00Thanks so much, Paul, especially for the "bea...Thanks so much, Paul, especially for the "beautifully said" part (tactfully overlooking one or two typing errors I missed before publishing). But why am I not surprised? Well, because for a long time now I've known that in several areas we are kindred spirits. But your confirmation of it is always welcome. I know that if I come back to the subject again, which I hope NOT to for a while (much too harrowing!) I won't be alone with my emotions.Raybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12424095016313843883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-82903945373904548212012-01-10T08:29:56.555-08:002012-01-10T08:29:56.555-08:00I could never HATE you, Tai - even if you worked i...I could never HATE you, Tai - even if you worked in an abattoir. I'm sure everyone has 'sensitivity buttons' (even though some may prefer to deny it) but they are not always located in the same place. Thanks for making a comment anyway, my friend.Raybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12424095016313843883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-35851326753933730082012-01-10T06:55:11.153-08:002012-01-10T06:55:11.153-08:00Almost everything I feel, you mentioned in your po...Almost everything I feel, you mentioned in your post. What you didn't cover there, you covered in your response to one of the comments. Beautifully said.paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02085842904367441128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-24974557977122138552012-01-10T04:41:34.935-08:002012-01-10T04:41:34.935-08:00You might hate me a lot because of my job.You might hate me a lot because of my job.Vương Tử Trựchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822722828908621992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-90934834708163670882012-01-10T01:02:00.806-08:002012-01-10T01:02:00.806-08:00Andrew, yes Spielberg has become a synonym for sch...Andrew, yes Spielberg has become a synonym for schmaltz - and I've heard that War Horse is a multiple-tissue movie. I'm the last person who needs to be shown additional sentiment towards animals. What I already feel without being nudged is more than enough, thank you.<br />The puppetry in the stage version of 'War Horse' sounds really intriguing and I actually would have liked the chance of seeing it - and certainly would have travelled up to London to do just that if I had the resources.<br />Spielberg lost the plot with me some time ago, wallowing in sentiment, often drowning in it! (I'd mention 'E.T.' again). Yet very occasionally he does come out with a surprising film that bucks the trend, his last which I look favourably on being 'Munich'. But whenever any of his films comes out - which is always an 'event' - I get very circumspect.<br />As for your seeing 'Bambi', I'd only repeat what I say to Cubby above. I dare say that if you saw it now you'd forget it once it was over.Raybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12424095016313843883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-35560784057422185612012-01-10T00:44:02.862-08:002012-01-10T00:44:02.862-08:00Cubby, I think at your (relatively) advanced age y...Cubby, I think at your (relatively) advanced age you have seen enough of life and death so as not to be surprised at a character losing a parent, especially a cartoon one. For me at the time cartoons were as real as life and this event profoundly affected me for many years to come - and maybe still does. For you watching it now I think it'll be like water off a duck's back - lucky you! I'd still be interested to know whether kids of an impressionable age watching it these days are still being traumatised by it, though.Raybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12424095016313843883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-17187017697833390442012-01-09T23:40:09.623-08:002012-01-09T23:40:09.623-08:00I don't fancy seeing Warhorse either, but main...I don't fancy seeing Warhorse either, but mainly because the trailer made it look a schmaltzy. I'm led to believe the stage version is very good with the use of puppetry in portraying the horse(s).<br /><br />I have never seen Bambi so have never experienced the trauma so many others seem to have had in relation to it.oneexwidowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06574357521257043728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-54047815896930092262012-01-09T09:44:25.063-08:002012-01-09T09:44:25.063-08:00I'm with you on your lack of desire to see War...I'm with you on your lack of desire to see Warhorse. However, now I'm curious about Bambi. I've never seen it and perhaps now at age 45 I should round up a copy and watch it. Will I find within it my lost childhood?Cubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15419686621818785014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-61624537318465416492012-01-09T08:57:02.093-08:002012-01-09T08:57:02.093-08:00Thanks, Jase. In fact I do have major problems wit...Thanks, Jase. In fact I do have major problems with horse-racing (as well as dog-racing) - actually with any sport that uses animals either directly as 'entertainment' or as a necessary adjunct. <br />We all know about fox-hunting and the foxes, but the question is never asked about what happens to all those horses AND dogs whose usefulness to that 'sport' has expired, say through injury or having less stamina through their ageing. I'm pretty sure they are shot - after being bred for the sole purpose of man's 'enjoyment'. The thought sends a shudder through me. <br /> I didn't know about charities (presumably including animal charities) who will benefit from the proceeds of this film. It does actually make me feel a little better. But don't get me wrong. I wouldn't say that this film should not have been made. As long as no animals were harmed then that's fine by me. It's just the depiction of animal's suffering that presses buttons causing myself to suffer mental anguish. If one can take seeing it on screen, then I've no objection in the least. So I'm not boycotting 'War Horse' on principle, only avoiding it personally so that I'm not paying money just to feel uncomfortable.<br /> I know one should feel at least the same about human suffering - most people would say one should feel even more. Actually I cannot watch TV when it shows people suffering through famine, war, natural catastrophes etc. The remote is always close at hand during the news for a quick flick-over. Also cannot bear to watch old historical newsreel films of Nazi era treatment of Jews (or anyone at all, though it's nearly always Jews shown) even before they're sent to the death camps. <br /> To sum up my attitude to animals though, which covers the reason why I'm veggie (maybe you too for this reason) - I always ask the question "Is this NECESSARY for us to survive?" - i.e. slaughtering a sentient being for a few moments of man's pleasure - and even that isn't isn't guaranteed. As long as there is an alternative which we in the developed world have, my answer to the question is "Yes, there IS an alternative. We do NOT need to make other beings suffer in order to survive ourselves." I rest my case.<br /><br />Btw: I'd forgotten that Mr Radcliffe had done 'Equus' in the West End. When I saw it there all those years ago the boy was played by Peter McEnery and the analyst by Michael Jayston. It was a pretty good production - as I reckon the one which you saw also was. At least the critics liked it.Raybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12424095016313843883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-76553567800466617592012-01-09T04:56:20.565-08:002012-01-09T04:56:20.565-08:00We are a nation of animal lovers, we pride ourselv...We are a nation of animal lovers, we pride ourselves on that, psychologically we exhibit more emotion and care about the suffering of our animal friends than we do human brothers and sisters. I find it sometimes strange, other times not, although I do wonder if animals were still used in greater quantities by armed forces if it would lead to less war and hostility and more cooperation and negotiation……<br />Joey, the horse, the main character in this new War Horse movie was very well paid indeed for his role (More than some of the actors!) Its also a film that is raising millions for charity, of which the glittering premier was all about, which, is a good thing. All too often big movie producers and companies keep all the profits for themselves, getting richer and fatter and richer and fatter. At least this time, a small amount will help others, rather than swell the bank accounts of the already rich and wealthy. <br />Although I’m not sure I can agree with you on not seeing the movie for the reasons you tell in this post, I respect your views and will leave that there. Although rather than boycotting a film that has no animal suffering in it, I’m surprised you don’t boycott say horse racing, for that rather than fictional pain, has real pain and death on a weekly basis.<br />I say Daniel R doing Equus, in London, I was lucky enough to be on stage at the back and it was an amazing performance, yes including the nude bits, thankfully no real horses, just metal heads…. I enjoyed it fully.Jason Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04097132229638807046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-2021650035846152872012-01-08T12:22:46.071-08:002012-01-08T12:22:46.071-08:00Your words give me such comfort, Dr Spo. If YOU, o...Your words give me such comfort, Dr Spo. If YOU, of all people, feel that way, then it provides more validation to my own emotions on the subject than I can say. We are on precisely the same wavelength - and you are especially brave in voicing your second sentence. All I can say is "Me too!" Thank you.Raybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12424095016313843883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926347286766677626.post-90021530738545504822012-01-08T12:10:20.214-08:002012-01-08T12:10:20.214-08:00Ever since we adopted a dog from the rescue societ...Ever since we adopted a dog from the rescue society, I can not abide nor tolerate any cruelty to animals. Human cruelty should move me but it doesn't; it is harm to cats and dogs etc. that moves me. <br />I can not look at rescue ads on the TV.Ur-spohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237644452200889946noreply@blogger.com